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> <channel><title>Comments on: Google Lively is shutting down</title> <atom:link href="http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/</link> <description>Raph Koster&#039;s personal website: MMOs, gaming, writing, art, music, books</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:02:55 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Google Lively to Shut Down &#124; Seán Bulger</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/comment-page-1/#comment-190506</link> <dc:creator>Google Lively to Shut Down &#124; Seán Bulger</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 01:02:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/#comment-190506</guid> <description>[...] for those feeling a bit displaced by the loss of the virtual environment, I tend to agree with Raph Koster&#8217;s post on the subject &#8211; this is a still growing [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/#comment-147677</guid> <description>[...] for those feeling a bit displaced by the loss of the virtual environment, I tend to agree with Raph Koster&#8217;s post on the subject - this is a still growing field.   Share and [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div
style="padding:15px; border-left:1px solid #dedede; border-bottom:3px solid #CCEBF7; background-color:#fcfeff"><p>[...] for those feeling a bit displaced by the loss of the virtual environment, I tend to agree with Raph Koster&#8217;s post on the subject &#8211; this is a still growing field.   Share and [...]</p></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cherrystar</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/comment-page-1/#comment-142899</link> <dc:creator>Cherrystar</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:44:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/#comment-142899</guid> <description>The Livelyzens (Lively users) are coming together to appeal to Google to keep Lively alive.
Lively is a great platform for interaction as well as creativity. It is easy to use, browser based, embeddable on webpages to bring a 3D experience right on your website. While Lively has been in beta and has limited capability in terms of the objects and avatars available, the Livelyzens have been able to come up with very creative ways to create art from what is available. All this in a &quot;clean&quot; 3D world thanks to Google&#039;s vigilance in getting rid of rooms with inappropriate content. More than anything, Lively has become a place to make friends for life – from all over the world with wonderful people.
Please visit our website http://livelyzens.com and participate in the Lively Machinima contest we are conducting to show the creative potential of Google Lively. Please also sign our online petition http://livelyzens.com/petition.aspx
We request netizens to support us in reviving a wonderful 3D world that is a kid friendly and a creative space for art and interaction amongst adults.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Livelyzens (Lively users) are coming together to appeal to Google to keep Lively alive.<br
/> Lively is a great platform for interaction as well as creativity. It is easy to use, browser based, embeddable on webpages to bring a 3D experience right on your website. While Lively has been in beta and has limited capability in terms of the objects and avatars available, the Livelyzens have been able to come up with very creative ways to create art from what is available. All this in a &#8220;clean&#8221; 3D world thanks to Google&#8217;s vigilance in getting rid of rooms with inappropriate content. More than anything, Lively has become a place to make friends for life – from all over the world with wonderful people.</p><p>Please visit our website <a
href="http://livelyzens.com" rel="nofollow">http://livelyzens.com</a> and participate in the Lively Machinima contest we are conducting to show the creative potential of Google Lively. Please also sign our online petition <a
href="http://livelyzens.com/petition.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://livelyzens.com/petition.aspx</a></p><p>We request netizens to support us in reviving a wonderful 3D world that is a kid friendly and a creative space for art and interaction amongst adults.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Arrakiv</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/comment-page-1/#comment-142807</link> <dc:creator>Arrakiv</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:18:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/#comment-142807</guid> <description>&quot;Doesn’t it rankle the graphics heads that the technical writers are smarter than they are?&quot;
&quot;Doesn’t it rankle the tech writers that graphic artists get dates?&quot;
Pssh, I&#039;m trained as a technical writer -and- a graphic artist. Clearly best of both worlds. ;-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Doesn’t it rankle the graphics heads that the technical writers are smarter than they are?&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Doesn’t it rankle the tech writers that graphic artists get dates?&#8221;</p><p>Pssh, I&#8217;m trained as a technical writer -and- a graphic artist. Clearly best of both worlds. <img
src='http://www.raphkoster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: len</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/comment-page-1/#comment-142803</link> <dc:creator>len</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:37:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/#comment-142803</guid> <description>I was a tech writer and I got lots of dates.    One of them was to a marriage ceremony.   Then I got assignments.  Ok, I was also a nightclub musician but that NASA badge sure took the quality up a notch.  Cheap thrills AND security for the future are the winning combination.
But yeah, I can&#039;t imagine how any serious business person would spend money on a virtual world without knowing there was a way to recover the content, the one true definition of ownership: picking up the ball and leaving.  VRMLers may be furry but all of our content is still working.  Only a small handful of other 3D real-time systems can make that claim.  I can&#039;t even tell if Collada has a future and it is a rather good solution for some problems.
Oh yes, IBM will save us!!
Dumb and dumber.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a tech writer and I got lots of dates.    One of them was to a marriage ceremony.   Then I got assignments.  Ok, I was also a nightclub musician but that NASA badge sure took the quality up a notch.  Cheap thrills AND security for the future are the winning combination.</p><p>But yeah, I can&#8217;t imagine how any serious business person would spend money on a virtual world without knowing there was a way to recover the content, the one true definition of ownership: picking up the ball and leaving.  VRMLers may be furry but all of our content is still working.  Only a small handful of other 3D real-time systems can make that claim.  I can&#8217;t even tell if Collada has a future and it is a rather good solution for some problems.</p><p>Oh yes, IBM will save us!!</p><p>Dumb and dumber.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Yukon Sam</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/comment-page-1/#comment-142802</link> <dc:creator>Yukon Sam</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:10:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/#comment-142802</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Doesn’t it rankle the graphics heads that the technical writers are smarter than they are?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Doesn&#039;t it rankle the tech writers that graphic artists get dates?
But full agreement on open standards. Lively users should at least be able to make a corpse run.
(For the record I&#039;m trained as a writer/artist, currently working as a vba developer, and strictly neutral in coder/writer/artist disputes except to get a cheap laugh).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Doesn’t it rankle the graphics heads that the technical writers are smarter than they are?</p></blockquote><p>Doesn&#8217;t it rankle the tech writers that graphic artists get dates?</p><p>But full agreement on open standards. Lively users should at least be able to make a corpse run.</p><p>(For the record I&#8217;m trained as a writer/artist, currently working as a vba developer, and strictly neutral in coder/writer/artist disputes except to get a cheap laugh).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tide</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/comment-page-1/#comment-142801</link> <dc:creator>Tide</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:46:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/#comment-142801</guid> <description>Not hard to predict (cf. July 9th, 2008 at 5:00 pm).  Internally it needed a &quot;pre-mortem&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not hard to predict (cf. July 9th, 2008 at 5:00 pm).  Internally it needed a &#8220;pre-mortem&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: F. Randall Farmer</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/comment-page-1/#comment-142800</link> <dc:creator>F. Randall Farmer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:20:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/#comment-142800</guid> <description>Google doesn&#039;t get online communities. Part of that is that they won&#039;t hire the experts in the field because of arbirary requirements. Part of it is design huberis.
Nothing new - Google isn&#039;t the only one that had this problem. :-)
Randy</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google doesn&#8217;t get online communities. Part of that is that they won&#8217;t hire the experts in the field because of arbirary requirements. Part of it is design huberis.</p><p>Nothing new &#8211; Google isn&#8217;t the only one that had this problem. <img
src='http://www.raphkoster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Randy</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Not Really All That Lively &#171; Broken Toys</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/comment-page-1/#comment-142799</link> <dc:creator>Not Really All That Lively &#171; Broken Toys</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:38:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/#comment-142799</guid> <description>[...] by Scott Jennings on November 20, 2008  As seen on Raph Koster&#8217;s site, Google Lively is shutting its doors next month. It has been a tough decision, but we want to [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/11/19/google-lively-is-shutting-down/#comment-142798</guid> <description>The problem is, considering virtual worlds are all about getting people to invest in them, if even google are going to smack you in the face at a moments notice then as a user how much faith do you have in smaller startups?
Lots of investors demanding money returns actually means lots of worlds that are going to go bang in the near future, just like this. They are all aiming to be top dogs, many of them will become average dogs then piss all over their users by shutting down...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is, considering virtual worlds are all about getting people to invest in them, if even google are going to smack you in the face at a moments notice then as a user how much faith do you have in smaller startups?</p><p>Lots of investors demanding money returns actually means lots of worlds that are going to go bang in the near future, just like this. They are all aiming to be top dogs, many of them will become average dogs then piss all over their users by shutting down&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
