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> <channel><title>Comments on: Music game lawsuit chain</title> <atom:link href="http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/07/11/music-game-lawsuit-chain/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/07/11/music-game-lawsuit-chain/</link> <description>Raph Koster&#039;s personal website: MMOs, gaming, writing, art, music, books</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:02:55 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Patent thicket consumes video games &#124; Prodigeek</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/07/11/music-game-lawsuit-chain/comment-page-1/#comment-139437</link> <dc:creator>Patent thicket consumes video games &#124; Prodigeek</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:14:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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style="padding:15px; border-left:1px solid #dedede; border-bottom:3px solid #CCEBF7; background-color:#fcfeff"><p>[...] Ralph Koster outlines the tangled web of patents covering the popular world of music-based video games.  A patent thicket describes when several patents cover a single product, owned by several different groups.  Music based video games like Guitar Hero and Rock Band are finding themselves mixed up in a web of lawsuits.  First Konami is suing Harmonix for patents on music games, even though Harmonix has its own assortment of music game patents (including a patent on a &#8220;game controller simulating a musical instrument&#8221;).  Konami previous made GuitarFreaks and is looking to get back into the music game genre since Harmonix help make it such a success (more than Konami ever did). [...]</p></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kerri Knight</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/07/11/music-game-lawsuit-chain/comment-page-1/#comment-139423</link> <dc:creator>Kerri Knight</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:01:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1803#comment-139423</guid> <description>IIIIIIIII&#039;m my own grandpa!!!
:9</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIIIIIIII&#8217;m my own grandpa!!!</p><p>:9</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tallimar</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/07/11/music-game-lawsuit-chain/comment-page-1/#comment-139281</link> <dc:creator>tallimar</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:52:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1803#comment-139281</guid> <description>hmmm... rock&#039;em sock&#039;em robot court cases... sounds like fun!  that is after i find the pieces of my head and put them back together with duct tape.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm&#8230; rock&#8217;em sock&#8217;em robot court cases&#8230; sounds like fun!  that is after i find the pieces of my head and put them back together with duct tape.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michael Chui</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/07/11/music-game-lawsuit-chain/comment-page-1/#comment-139270</link> <dc:creator>Michael Chui</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:54:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1803#comment-139270</guid> <description>Obviously, the time has come for legal battles to be fought using remote-controlled mecha. Now I&#039;m going to resist searching for an existing patent on that.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, the time has come for legal battles to be fought using remote-controlled mecha. Now I&#8217;m going to resist searching for an existing patent on that.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eolirin</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/07/11/music-game-lawsuit-chain/comment-page-1/#comment-139258</link> <dc:creator>Eolirin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:36:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1803#comment-139258</guid> <description>To be fair, we don&#039;t really know what the particular patents *are* because Raph only summarized. It&#039;s still broken because of this insanity, but it&#039;s not very likely that they&#039;re bickering over patents about the broader concept of &quot;a music game&quot;. It&#039;s much more likely they&#039;re bickering over patents regarding the peripherals, UI elements, and code assets rather than complete intangibles like &quot;rythm&quot; and &quot;games about playing music&quot;.
It&#039;s still crazy. Everyone involved in these suits are making large sums of money off of their game sales. They don&#039;t need to be trying to kill each other via the courts.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, we don&#8217;t really know what the particular patents *are* because Raph only summarized. It&#8217;s still broken because of this insanity, but it&#8217;s not very likely that they&#8217;re bickering over patents about the broader concept of &#8220;a music game&#8221;. It&#8217;s much more likely they&#8217;re bickering over patents regarding the peripherals, UI elements, and code assets rather than complete intangibles like &#8220;rythm&#8221; and &#8220;games about playing music&#8221;.</p><p>It&#8217;s still crazy. Everyone involved in these suits are making large sums of money off of their game sales. They don&#8217;t need to be trying to kill each other via the courts.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BadMisterFrosty</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/07/11/music-game-lawsuit-chain/comment-page-1/#comment-139245</link> <dc:creator>BadMisterFrosty</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:51:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1803#comment-139245</guid> <description>The mechanics of those games are so basic, that it is embarrassing that people can claim rights on them. Making music is intrinsically about hitting something in time, which is called a rythm. So it looks like the genius patents are on the same level as patenting loading bars or playing a game while loading and other no-brainer stuff. I only wait for the day when an american patents &quot;the act of inhaling air in order to charge blood with oxygen&quot;. I now have confidence.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mechanics of those games are so basic, that it is embarrassing that people can claim rights on them. Making music is intrinsically about hitting something in time, which is called a rythm. So it looks like the genius patents are on the same level as patenting loading bars or playing a game while loading and other no-brainer stuff. I only wait for the day when an american patents &#8220;the act of inhaling air in order to charge blood with oxygen&#8221;. I now have confidence.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Amaranthar</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/07/11/music-game-lawsuit-chain/comment-page-1/#comment-139244</link> <dc:creator>Amaranthar</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:24:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1803#comment-139244</guid> <description>So if a gamer creates content in a game that claims all rights to said content, then goes to another game and re-creates the same content, that gamer can go directly to jail and not collect $200 ?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if a gamer creates content in a game that claims all rights to said content, then goes to another game and re-creates the same content, that gamer can go directly to jail and not collect $200 ?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Peter S.</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/07/11/music-game-lawsuit-chain/comment-page-1/#comment-139241</link> <dc:creator>Peter S.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:59:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1803#comment-139241</guid> <description>Man, if I was a lawyer, I&#039;d be wiping drool off my chin after reading that.  :P</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, if I was a lawyer, I&#8217;d be wiping drool off my chin after reading that. <img
src='http://www.raphkoster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ola Fosheim GrĂ¸stad</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/07/11/music-game-lawsuit-chain/comment-page-1/#comment-139237</link> <dc:creator>Ola Fosheim GrĂ¸stad</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:09:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1803#comment-139237</guid> <description>Relocate to Europe and switch to online distribution...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relocate to Europe and switch to online distribution&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dan Kelly</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/07/11/music-game-lawsuit-chain/comment-page-1/#comment-139236</link> <dc:creator>Dan Kelly</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:55:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1803#comment-139236</guid> <description>Who&#039;s on first?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s on first?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
