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Did I hear that 269 million people already signed up to it? That’s why I immediately put SLURLs (URLs taking you to load up Second Life and land at an SL destination) for rentals in my room, Prokofy’s Flamingo Court, because surely out of 269 million people one of them will drop into my rentals, right? I put on the ad “drop into the real Flamingo Court” lol — isn’t that odd that it felt like that.

Then I started putting stuff on all the other objects. The book has a URL for my blog. The food platters have links to articles on cheap food that is good for you, etc. Once they make the URL connectors a little prettier and less clunky, you essentially have an, er, lively web page that does more stuff, that makes linking more fun and visual.

I put in the pictures and YouTubes — the youtubes currently have to endlessly loop and you can only sound one of them at a time so that’s a bit clunky. But, make another room and another, there’s no real estate or anything for now.

I personally don’t think you can make a room without real estate, without contiguous earth. I think rooms, the dream of geeks, are dull and limiting even if you can make them endlessly and walk between them endlessly, they don’t have a full staying power.

Embedding on the website feels like a thrill for a minute but…if someone really wants to talk to me, why bother to go into that clunky room? They can write a comment, go on Twitter, go in SL, go on Yahoo Messenger or whatever, I mean, it’s not vital always to have a cartoon to go with the chat.

My bet is that Google with have a Google FIC (Google Feted Inner Core) that will be allowed to make content or widgets for the masses that they will cut into some kind of sharing deal. That’s essentially what they have now, although the stuff is free.

For now, you can’t put your AdSense scripts in there. But that will change, or they will have LivelySense or something and each and every object is set up already to comment on or abuse report or edit.

I guess I see it mainly as a big link far for ads and they hope that scraping chat and harnessing social media power around that will help ads.

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And they’ll be spreading the news. “Virtual Worlds? Yes, I’ve tried Google’s. It was immensely boring and primitive. I cannot possibly understand what’s the rage about them.” If the person saying that is a CEO from a Fortune 500 company, I can bet it’ll make the news pretty quickly and dramatically — even making Google’s shares drop on NASDAQ. So the consequences might be a bit more serious for us virtual world evangelists — but for completely the wrong reasons.

Vivaty takes a little longer to install if one doesn’t have a Facebook page already (I didn’t. I’m not a social network fan.). All of that is taken care of during the setup. I trust Vivaty so the Active-X control doesn’t bother me and it didn’t take that much more time to download. Once installed however, the differences are stunning. The 3D is orders of magnitude better, the navigation is easier and familiar, avatar gestures are built in and easy to control. The 2D layer tips work and are well organized to get one through the first segement of the learning curve. It integrates nicely with Facebook (I didn’t try AIM).

Google is big but they have a ways to go. Vivaty clearly wins this round. I think the basis in the original VRML/X3D technology is well vindicated by this. Google has good reason to fear those standards.