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		<title>By: PekkaR</title>
		<link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/06/26/numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-138844</link>
		<dc:creator>PekkaR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In January 2008, for 6.6 billion people in the world there were (at least):
 - 850 million automobiles (not sure what that contains)
 - 900 million PCs in use
 - 1.3 billion fixed landline phones
 - 1.4 billion credit card &lt;strong&gt;owners&lt;/strong&gt;
 - 1.5 billion TV sets in use
 - 3.3 billion mobile phone subscriptions (about 2.6 billion users)

1.3 billion Internet users:
 - 37% only via computer
 - 30% only via mobile phone
 - 25% of all mobile phone users access Internet with their devices

Soo... How are the mobile clients for Metaplace coming along? :p

All numbers from &lt;a href=&quot;http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2008/01/when-there-is-a.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TomiAhonen Consulting&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In January 2008, for 6.6 billion people in the world there were (at least):<br />
 &#8211; 850 million automobiles (not sure what that contains)<br />
 &#8211; 900 million PCs in use<br />
 &#8211; 1.3 billion fixed landline phones<br />
 &#8211; 1.4 billion credit card <strong>owners</strong><br />
 &#8211; 1.5 billion TV sets in use<br />
 &#8211; 3.3 billion mobile phone subscriptions (about 2.6 billion users)</p>
<p>1.3 billion Internet users:<br />
 &#8211; 37% only via computer<br />
 &#8211; 30% only via mobile phone<br />
 &#8211; 25% of all mobile phone users access Internet with their devices</p>
<p>Soo&#8230; How are the mobile clients for Metaplace coming along? :p</p>
<p>All numbers from <a href="http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2008/01/when-there-is-a.html" rel="nofollow">TomiAhonen Consulting</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Ola Fosheim Grøstad</title>
		<link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/06/26/numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-138608</link>
		<dc:creator>Ola Fosheim Grøstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Rozak: &lt;blockquote&gt;- There are 1 billion PCs in use.

- PC growth is now at a rate of 12% per year, most of it from emerging markets.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Consider this: India has 350 million kids. (under 15 years)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Rozak:<br />
<blockquote>- There are 1 billion PCs in use.</p>
<p>- PC growth is now at a rate of 12% per year, most of it from emerging markets.</p></blockquote>
<p>Consider this: India has 350 million kids. (under 15 years)</p>
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		<title>By: pkurflax.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>pkurflax.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I PK UR NUMBERS...&lt;/strong&gt;

Raph Koster had an interesting post up today with a few random statistics and numbers he&#8217;s found browsing things over the last while. After taking issue with one of the numbers he posted from Time Magazine (damn you, Time), I decided that it migh...</description>
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<p><strong>I PK UR NUMBERS&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Raph Koster had an interesting post up today with a few random statistics and numbers he&#8217;s found browsing things over the last while. After taking issue with one of the numbers he posted from Time Magazine (damn you, Time), I decided that it migh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hermes</title>
		<link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/06/26/numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-138600</link>
		<dc:creator>Hermes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, that&#039;s a way better link, if only because we now have concrete evidence as to why our children are doing progressively worse in school. :)

&lt;blockquote&gt;96. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban

97. The Official SAT Study Guide&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now, if we were to combine those two into &lt;em&gt;Harry Potter and the Last Minute Cram Session&lt;/em&gt;, we just might have something...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, that&#8217;s a way better link, if only because we now have concrete evidence as to why our children are doing progressively worse in school. <img src='http://www.raphkoster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>96. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban</p>
<p>97. The Official SAT Study Guide</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, if we were to combine those two into <em>Harry Potter and the Last Minute Cram Session</em>, we just might have something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Raph</title>
		<link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/06/26/numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-138599</link>
		<dc:creator>Raph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good catch, Hermes. I edited the post to reflect Time&#039;s bias. ;)

Found the actual top selling books of 2007, with Potter, as you suspected, at the top. 

http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2008-01-16-top-100-books_N.htm

No figures, though. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good catch, Hermes. I edited the post to reflect Time&#8217;s bias. <img src='http://www.raphkoster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Found the actual top selling books of 2007, with Potter, as you suspected, at the top. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2008-01-16-top-100-books_N.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2008-01-16-top-100-books_N.htm</a></p>
<p>No figures, though. <img src='http://www.raphkoster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hermes</title>
		<link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/06/26/numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-138597</link>
		<dc:creator>Hermes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s try again. From Time Magazine...

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Graphic novels--long comic books for grownups--have always had mostly cult appeal. Last year&#039;s most successful, the 13th volume in a Japanese manga adventure series--Naruto, by Masashi Kishimoto--sold 80,000 copies, far short of &lt;strong&gt;2007&#039;s hottest novel&lt;/strong&gt;, A Thousand Splendid Suns, by Khaled Hosseini, which sold more than 1.5 million copies.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Emphasis mine. Now, pulling a random site off of a &#039;Harry Potter 7 sales&#039; Google search, Publisher&#039;s Weekly...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Scholastic said Sunday that HP 7, which had a first printing of 12 million copies, sold a record-breaking 8.3 million copies in the U.S. in its first 24 hours. At Borders the book broke a record for the chain, selling 1.2 million copies worldwide, “the highest single-day sales of any title ever in Borders history,” the retailer said. B&amp;N had previously announced that preorders for the book had exceeded one million and Amazon presold 2.2 million copies; B&amp;N and Bloomsbury, HP’s British publisher, will release their numbers on Monday.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, yeah. I&#039;m guessing the author of that Time article was dubbing A Thousand Splendid Suns as the &#039;hottest novel of last year&#039; using a set of criteria that are known to no one but herself.

On a related note, the Naruto figure in the same article, while technically correct (Bookscan has Volume 13 at 80,423 copies), is a bit misleading. Volumes of the Naruto series as a whole made up 16 of the top 30 graphic novels sold last year, and no individual volume sold fewer than 27,000 copies. That&#039;s certainly not Harry Potter numbers, but it&#039;s definitely a hot property and likely possessing something more than merely &#039;cult appeal&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s try again. From Time Magazine&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>
Graphic novels&#8211;long comic books for grownups&#8211;have always had mostly cult appeal. Last year&#8217;s most successful, the 13th volume in a Japanese manga adventure series&#8211;Naruto, by Masashi Kishimoto&#8211;sold 80,000 copies, far short of <strong>2007&#8217;s hottest novel</strong>, A Thousand Splendid Suns, by Khaled Hosseini, which sold more than 1.5 million copies.</p></blockquote>
<p>Emphasis mine. Now, pulling a random site off of a &#8216;Harry Potter 7 sales&#8217; Google search, Publisher&#8217;s Weekly&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Scholastic said Sunday that HP 7, which had a first printing of 12 million copies, sold a record-breaking 8.3 million copies in the U.S. in its first 24 hours. At Borders the book broke a record for the chain, selling 1.2 million copies worldwide, “the highest single-day sales of any title ever in Borders history,” the retailer said. B&amp;N had previously announced that preorders for the book had exceeded one million and Amazon presold 2.2 million copies; B&amp;N and Bloomsbury, HP’s British publisher, will release their numbers on Monday.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, yeah. I&#8217;m guessing the author of that Time article was dubbing A Thousand Splendid Suns as the &#8216;hottest novel of last year&#8217; using a set of criteria that are known to no one but herself.</p>
<p>On a related note, the Naruto figure in the same article, while technically correct (Bookscan has Volume 13 at 80,423 copies), is a bit misleading. Volumes of the Naruto series as a whole made up 16 of the top 30 graphic novels sold last year, and no individual volume sold fewer than 27,000 copies. That&#8217;s certainly not Harry Potter numbers, but it&#8217;s definitely a hot property and likely possessing something more than merely &#8216;cult appeal&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Rozak</title>
		<link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/06/26/numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-138593</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Rozak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another interesting set of numbers from a few days ago:

- There are 1 billion PCs in use.

- PC growth is now at a rate of 12% per year, most of it from emerging markets.

- 16% of PCs are being replaced a year =&gt; A 6.25 year lifespan for the typical PC.

These numbers are interesting because they ultimately affect where many of Raph&#039;s numbers are going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting set of numbers from a few days ago:</p>
<p>- There are 1 billion PCs in use.</p>
<p>- PC growth is now at a rate of 12% per year, most of it from emerging markets.</p>
<p>- 16% of PCs are being replaced a year =&gt; A 6.25 year lifespan for the typical PC.</p>
<p>These numbers are interesting because they ultimately affect where many of Raph&#8217;s numbers are going.</p>
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		<title>By: The Pastor</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Pastor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[sarcasm]Number of movies downloaded from &quot;torrent&quot; sites last month - 40,000,000.
Number of torrents deleted after 10 minutes of playtime because they suck - 39,500,000[sarcasm]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[sarcasm]Number of movies downloaded from &#8220;torrent&#8221; sites last month &#8211; 40,000,000.<br />
Number of torrents deleted after 10 minutes of playtime because they suck &#8211; 39,500,000[sarcasm]</p>
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		<title>By: Raph</title>
		<link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/06/26/numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-138591</link>
		<dc:creator>Raph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew I should have listed more sources!

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve never seen a breakout of World of Warcraft subscriber numbers by region, and I’ve always been curious. Where did you get the 2.5 million figure? Is it a guesstimate or a solid number?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The number came from the press release that Doggabone cited.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m curious about the source of the Rock Band figures.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://ca.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idCAN2329170920080523?sp=true says:

&lt;blockquote&gt;In slightly more than six months, the number of songs downloaded to the &quot;Rock Band&quot; game has surpassed 10 million tracks, according to MTV Networks, while song downloads from &quot;Guitar Hero&quot; passed 15 million, according to Activision. With more than 100 songs available for download via the &quot;Rock Band&quot; platform, that&#039;s an average of 100,000 downloads per song sold through the game.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d like to know what the veiwership numbers for the #1 adn #150 TV shows were 10, 20, 40 years ago, to see whether TV watching is changing.

I’d like to see numbers of top music album or single bought in the store today, 10, 20, and 40 years ago, to see whether online purchases are really affecting store purchases and to what extent.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Try THE LONG TAIL, there&#039;s some stats there.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d like to see total number of people who have a subscription/membership to any major online game, not just WOW.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yah, wouldn&#039;t we all. :)



&lt;blockquote&gt;Harry Potter 7 came out last year. With an initial US print run of twelve million copies.

I don’t think it’d be a stretch to say that at least 15% of those copies actually sold&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That figure came from TIME Magazine, the latest issue, the article on comics and movies.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Without the accompanying methodology for calculating these figures, the sales figures alone mean little. What about ancillary sources of revenue?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As I said, it was a collection of figures that caught my eye. I don&#039;t have revenue figures for most of it (it&#039;s quite transparent for movies, but completely invisible for many other media, for example).

&lt;blockquote&gt;    By October 1972, the Beatles’ worldwide sales total stood at 545 million units.

Just to put things in perspective…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Heh, yah. There are always more numbers.

Unique sites visiting this blog in May: 44,700.



&lt;blockquote&gt;The only meaningful measure of VWs is monthly online hours. If you want to estimate users, you can divide by average session time. Sadly, most games won’t report these numbers, because they think that by using a more inflated number, they can sound more impressive.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Different services have different typical session lengths, so I don&#039;t think hours are a great comparison either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew I should have listed more sources!</p>
<blockquote><p>I’ve never seen a breakout of World of Warcraft subscriber numbers by region, and I’ve always been curious. Where did you get the 2.5 million figure? Is it a guesstimate or a solid number?</p></blockquote>
<p>The number came from the press release that Doggabone cited.</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m curious about the source of the Rock Band figures.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://ca.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idCAN2329170920080523?sp=true" rel="nofollow">http://ca.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idCAN2329170920080523?sp=true</a> says:</p>
<blockquote><p>In slightly more than six months, the number of songs downloaded to the &#8220;Rock Band&#8221; game has surpassed 10 million tracks, according to MTV Networks, while song downloads from &#8220;Guitar Hero&#8221; passed 15 million, according to Activision. With more than 100 songs available for download via the &#8220;Rock Band&#8221; platform, that&#8217;s an average of 100,000 downloads per song sold through the game.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I’d like to know what the veiwership numbers for the #1 adn #150 TV shows were 10, 20, 40 years ago, to see whether TV watching is changing.</p>
<p>I’d like to see numbers of top music album or single bought in the store today, 10, 20, and 40 years ago, to see whether online purchases are really affecting store purchases and to what extent.</p></blockquote>
<p>Try THE LONG TAIL, there&#8217;s some stats there.</p>
<blockquote><p>I’d like to see total number of people who have a subscription/membership to any major online game, not just WOW.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yah, wouldn&#8217;t we all. <img src='http://www.raphkoster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>Harry Potter 7 came out last year. With an initial US print run of twelve million copies.</p>
<p>I don’t think it’d be a stretch to say that at least 15% of those copies actually sold</p></blockquote>
<p>That figure came from TIME Magazine, the latest issue, the article on comics and movies.</p>
<blockquote><p>Without the accompanying methodology for calculating these figures, the sales figures alone mean little. What about ancillary sources of revenue?</p></blockquote>
<p>As I said, it was a collection of figures that caught my eye. I don&#8217;t have revenue figures for most of it (it&#8217;s quite transparent for movies, but completely invisible for many other media, for example).</p>
<blockquote><p>    By October 1972, the Beatles’ worldwide sales total stood at 545 million units.</p>
<p>Just to put things in perspective…</p></blockquote>
<p>Heh, yah. There are always more numbers.</p>
<p>Unique sites visiting this blog in May: 44,700.</p>
<blockquote><p>The only meaningful measure of VWs is monthly online hours. If you want to estimate users, you can divide by average session time. Sadly, most games won’t report these numbers, because they think that by using a more inflated number, they can sound more impressive.</p></blockquote>
<p>Different services have different typical session lengths, so I don&#8217;t think hours are a great comparison either.</p>
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		<title>By: Kami Harbinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kami Harbinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The WoW numbers are always for accounts, not people; many people have multiple accounts. Still, as long as they&#039;re not counting trial accounts, each of those is associated with a credit card, and therefore pretty close to a person.

The Habbo numbers are also for accounts, but are far less unique per person. Each avatar you make is a different account. Making free accounts is trivial, and kids have little attachment to each avatar. They&#039;ll often make a new avatar rather than try to recover a lost password. Payment methods like paypal and cell phone often have multiple accounts per real user.

There might well be millions of active Habbo users, but it&#039;s impossible to get anything reliable from their stats.

The only meaningful measure of VWs is monthly online hours. If you want to estimate users, you can divide by average session time. Sadly, most games won&#039;t report these numbers, because they think that by using a more inflated number, they can sound more impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The WoW numbers are always for accounts, not people; many people have multiple accounts. Still, as long as they&#8217;re not counting trial accounts, each of those is associated with a credit card, and therefore pretty close to a person.</p>
<p>The Habbo numbers are also for accounts, but are far less unique per person. Each avatar you make is a different account. Making free accounts is trivial, and kids have little attachment to each avatar. They&#8217;ll often make a new avatar rather than try to recover a lost password. Payment methods like paypal and cell phone often have multiple accounts per real user.</p>
<p>There might well be millions of active Habbo users, but it&#8217;s impossible to get anything reliable from their stats.</p>
<p>The only meaningful measure of VWs is monthly online hours. If you want to estimate users, you can divide by average session time. Sadly, most games won&#8217;t report these numbers, because they think that by using a more inflated number, they can sound more impressive.</p>
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