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> <channel><title>Comments on: I&#8217;m #9</title> <atom:link href="http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/05/28/im-9/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/05/28/im-9/</link> <description>Raph Koster&#039;s personal website: MMOs, gaming, writing, art, music, books</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:02:55 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: SirBruce</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/05/28/im-9/comment-page-1/#comment-137912</link> <dc:creator>SirBruce</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 09:44:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1756#comment-137912</guid> <description>Some Jagex&#039;s folks were on my list but few people I talked to mentioned them.  RuneScape is certainly a stand-out product, but is really influential?  I see a lot more companies copying the Korean MMOs for their microtransaction approach rather than RuneScape.
As for Cory vs. Philip, it&#039;s a toss-up, but Cory did actually write just about all the game&#039;s code.  Without Philip, Second Life would probably still exist; without Cory, probably not.  Going forward, though, Phil is certainly in the driver&#039;s seat now...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some Jagex&#8217;s folks were on my list but few people I talked to mentioned them.  RuneScape is certainly a stand-out product, but is really influential?  I see a lot more companies copying the Korean MMOs for their microtransaction approach rather than RuneScape.</p><p>As for Cory vs. Philip, it&#8217;s a toss-up, but Cory did actually write just about all the game&#8217;s code.  Without Philip, Second Life would probably still exist; without Cory, probably not.  Going forward, though, Phil is certainly in the driver&#8217;s seat now&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wolfgang Wozniak</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/05/28/im-9/comment-page-1/#comment-137901</link> <dc:creator>Wolfgang Wozniak</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 03:23:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1756#comment-137901</guid> <description>Sage Sundi is the man!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sage Sundi is the man!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: hanshotfirst</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/05/28/im-9/comment-page-1/#comment-137891</link> <dc:creator>hanshotfirst</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:20:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1756#comment-137891</guid> <description>I got a kick out of Scott Jennings&#039; Top Ten list on broken toys.
http://brokentoys.org/2008/05/29/top-ten-classes-in-mmos/</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a kick out of Scott Jennings&#8217; Top Ten list on broken toys.</p><p><a
href="http://brokentoys.org/2008/05/29/top-ten-classes-in-mmos/" rel="nofollow">http://brokentoys.org/2008/05/29/top-ten-classes-in-mmos/</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt Mihaly</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/05/28/im-9/comment-page-1/#comment-137888</link> <dc:creator>Matt Mihaly</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 19:17:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1756#comment-137888</guid> <description>Fun list! Biggest surprise for me is the absence of anyone from Jagex and listing Cory Ondrejka but not Philip.
Incidentally, for what it&#039;s worth, I agree with Gene that Robert Small from Miniclip should be considered in the future. Miniclip was a big factor in both Runescape and Club Penguin building their massive audiences.
--matt</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fun list! Biggest surprise for me is the absence of anyone from Jagex and listing Cory Ondrejka but not Philip.</p><p>Incidentally, for what it&#8217;s worth, I agree with Gene that Robert Small from Miniclip should be considered in the future. Miniclip was a big factor in both Runescape and Club Penguin building their massive audiences.</p><p>&#8211;matt</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Arrakiv</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/05/28/im-9/comment-page-1/#comment-137858</link> <dc:creator>Arrakiv</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 05:12:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1756#comment-137858</guid> <description>It looks like a pretty fair list over all, I would say.
Congrats - not that I find this exactly &lt;em&gt;surprising&lt;/em&gt;. :-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like a pretty fair list over all, I would say.</p><p>Congrats &#8211; not that I find this exactly <em>surprising</em>. <img
src='http://www.raphkoster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SirBruce</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/05/28/im-9/comment-page-1/#comment-137842</link> <dc:creator>SirBruce</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:10:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1756#comment-137842</guid> <description>Giving panels and speeches were certainly a factor.  Of course, one could argue that doesn&#039;t necessarily mean those people are *listened* to... perhaps they just make entertaining speakers. :)
But a big part of the problem with such a list is that every game is a team effort, yadda yadda yadda; it&#039;s not just one person who is responsible.  So often the high-profile evangelist is the one that gets seen as influential, even though the cool innovative design feature that every other MMO copies was really the work of a junior designer.
Another factor was recommendations.  I quietly talked to several folks at various companies for suggestions and a lot of the same names turned up repeatedly, so you knew they were near the top.  I also looked at other top developer lists, google hits, etc.  But in the end a lot of it was just my personal judgement.  People can disagree; I don&#039;t mind taking the hit for it. :)
By focusing the list primarily on people who shipped a new product or expansion or made a big corporate move in 2007, it actually made the list much easier to handle.  Dozens of people at EA Mythic, BioWare, Funcom, 38 Studios, Cheyenne, Perpetual, etc. didn&#039;t make the cut simply because they didn&#039;t ship anything new for MMOs last year.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giving panels and speeches were certainly a factor.  Of course, one could argue that doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean those people are *listened* to&#8230; perhaps they just make entertaining speakers. <img
src='http://www.raphkoster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>But a big part of the problem with such a list is that every game is a team effort, yadda yadda yadda; it&#8217;s not just one person who is responsible.  So often the high-profile evangelist is the one that gets seen as influential, even though the cool innovative design feature that every other MMO copies was really the work of a junior designer.</p><p>Another factor was recommendations.  I quietly talked to several folks at various companies for suggestions and a lot of the same names turned up repeatedly, so you knew they were near the top.  I also looked at other top developer lists, google hits, etc.  But in the end a lot of it was just my personal judgement.  People can disagree; I don&#8217;t mind taking the hit for it. <img
src='http://www.raphkoster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>By focusing the list primarily on people who shipped a new product or expansion or made a big corporate move in 2007, it actually made the list much easier to handle.  Dozens of people at EA Mythic, BioWare, Funcom, 38 Studios, Cheyenne, Perpetual, etc. didn&#8217;t make the cut simply because they didn&#8217;t ship anything new for MMOs last year.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Morgan Ramsay</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/05/28/im-9/comment-page-1/#comment-137838</link> <dc:creator>Morgan Ramsay</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 19:01:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1756#comment-137838</guid> <description>SirBruce is... ALIVE!
&lt;blockquote&gt;And finally, we tried to focus on those individuals who were truly influential on the industry as a whole, rather than just on their own game.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
How did you measure this? Number of speeches/panels done? We know who wins there. ;p</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SirBruce is&#8230; ALIVE!</p><blockquote><p>And finally, we tried to focus on those individuals who were truly influential on the industry as a whole, rather than just on their own game.</p></blockquote><p>How did you measure this? Number of speeches/panels done? We know who wins there. ;p</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SirBruce</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/05/28/im-9/comment-page-1/#comment-137835</link> <dc:creator>SirBruce</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 17:03:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1756#comment-137835</guid> <description>So, most of you haven&#039;t read the article yet, so I&#039;ll let you in on a secret:  I wrote the article and compiled the list myself, albeit with a lot of input from Doug Kale @ Beckett as well as several others.
We consulted a variety of industry insiders to assist in compiling a list of potential nominees. Then we developed a set of criteria to evaluate each candidate and rank them accordingly. To start with, we intentionally decided to highlight people who were actually working in commercial MMO development, as opposed to academics or the media. Secondly, we gave preference to those candidates who had worked on an MMO that either launched or shipped an expansion in 2007. And finally, we tried to focus on those individuals who were truly influential on the industry as a whole, rather than just on their own game.
In response to Gene&#039;s suggestions, I can say both Andrew and Matt were on the nominees list, although I don&#039;t think Robert Small was.  Making the list was *hard*, and I expect there to be some disagreements.  The most important thing to remind people is that it&#039;s a list primarily for 2007, and many people you might expect to be on the list might show up next year... assuming the game&#039;s they&#039;re working on actually ship. :)
So go out and buy a copy today!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, most of you haven&#8217;t read the article yet, so I&#8217;ll let you in on a secret:  I wrote the article and compiled the list myself, albeit with a lot of input from Doug Kale @ Beckett as well as several others.</p><p>We consulted a variety of industry insiders to assist in compiling a list of potential nominees. Then we developed a set of criteria to evaluate each candidate and rank them accordingly. To start with, we intentionally decided to highlight people who were actually working in commercial MMO development, as opposed to academics or the media. Secondly, we gave preference to those candidates who had worked on an MMO that either launched or shipped an expansion in 2007. And finally, we tried to focus on those individuals who were truly influential on the industry as a whole, rather than just on their own game.</p><p>In response to Gene&#8217;s suggestions, I can say both Andrew and Matt were on the nominees list, although I don&#8217;t think Robert Small was.  Making the list was *hard*, and I expect there to be some disagreements.  The most important thing to remind people is that it&#8217;s a list primarily for 2007, and many people you might expect to be on the list might show up next year&#8230; assuming the game&#8217;s they&#8217;re working on actually ship. <img
src='http://www.raphkoster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>So go out and buy a copy today!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Raph</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/05/28/im-9/comment-page-1/#comment-137834</link> <dc:creator>Raph</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:41:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1756#comment-137834</guid> <description>Ross,
I know 16 of the 20 personally, I think, and count several of them as friends -- but that still means I don&#039;t know four of them at all! :)
Gene,
The article mentions that there were 80 nominees -- so I am sure some of those folks were considered. There&#039;s also a little block at the bottom with &quot;people to watch for next year&quot; that includes both new faces and familiar ones like Rich Vogel &amp; Gordon Walton.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross,</p><p>I know 16 of the 20 personally, I think, and count several of them as friends &#8212; but that still means I don&#8217;t know four of them at all! <img
src='http://www.raphkoster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Gene,</p><p>The article mentions that there were 80 nominees &#8212; so I am sure some of those folks were considered. There&#8217;s also a little block at the bottom with &#8220;people to watch for next year&#8221; that includes both new faces and familiar ones like Rich Vogel &#038; Gordon Walton.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gene Endrody</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2008/05/28/im-9/comment-page-1/#comment-137831</link> <dc:creator>Gene Endrody</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:05:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=1756#comment-137831</guid> <description>Congrats Raph.
I&#039;m assuming we now get to nominate the ones that were missed like:
1. Robert Small, Miniclip CEO (I think Miniclip&#039;s importance in the distribution of smaller MMOs is often overlooked)
2. Andrew Gower, co-founder of Jagex and lead developer of Runescape (certainly inspired me)
3. Matt Mihaly, CEO Iron Realms and Spark Play (Virtual Items Pioneer)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats Raph.<br
/> I&#8217;m assuming we now get to nominate the ones that were missed like:</p><p>1. Robert Small, Miniclip CEO (I think Miniclip&#8217;s importance in the distribution of smaller MMOs is often overlooked)</p><p>2. Andrew Gower, co-founder of Jagex and lead developer of Runescape (certainly inspired me)</p><p>3. Matt Mihaly, CEO Iron Realms and Spark Play (Virtual Items Pioneer)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
