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> <channel><title>Comments on: Virtual Lower East Side</title> <atom:link href="http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/</link> <description>Raph Koster&#039;s personal website: MMOs, gaming, writing, art, music, books</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:02:55 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Doppelganger shutters vSide &#171; Austin Entrepreneur Network</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/comment-page-1/#comment-149049</link> <dc:creator>Doppelganger shutters vSide &#171; Austin Entrepreneur Network</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:33:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/#comment-149049</guid> <description>[...] to be known as The Lounge, which was itself PCDLounge before that, I think. Doppelganger also did the Virtual Lower East Side for MTV; the old link for that seems to be gone behind a password. They opened in the summer of [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div
style="padding:15px; border-left:1px solid #dedede; border-bottom:3px solid #CCEBF7; background-color:#fcfeff"><p>[...] to be known as The Lounge, which was itself PCDLounge before that, I think. Doppelganger also did the Virtual Lower East Side for MTV; the old link for that seems to be gone behind a password. They opened in the summer of [...]</p></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Raph&#8217;s Website &#187; Doppelganger shutters vSide</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/comment-page-1/#comment-149048</link> <dc:creator>Raph&#8217;s Website &#187; Doppelganger shutters vSide</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:19:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/#comment-149048</guid> <description>[...] to be known as The Lounge, which was itself PCDLounge before that, I think. Doppelganger also did the Virtual Lower East Side for MTV; the old link for that seems to be gone behind a password. They opened in the summer of [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div
style="padding:15px; border-left:1px solid #dedede; border-bottom:3px solid #CCEBF7; background-color:#fcfeff"><p>[...] to be known as The Lounge, which was itself PCDLounge before that, I think. Doppelganger also did the Virtual Lower East Side for MTV; the old link for that seems to be gone behind a password. They opened in the summer of [...]</p></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: reBang weblog</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/comment-page-1/#comment-125178</link> <dc:creator>reBang weblog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:45:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/#comment-125178</guid> <description>&lt;strong&gt;MTV: One Avatar, Their World...&lt;/strong&gt;
I caught an entry over on Virtual World News (Link) calling attention to a clip on C&#124;Net (Link) that smacked of public relations bull. From the short write-up on VWN:
MTV announced its dedication to the idea of One Avatar, One World in Jeff Yapp&amp;#8217...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div
style="padding:15px; border-left:1px solid #dedede; border-bottom:3px solid #CCEBF7; background-color:#fcfeff"><p><strong>MTV: One Avatar, Their World&#8230;</strong></p><p> I caught an entry over on Virtual World News (Link) calling attention to a clip on C|Net (Link) that smacked of public relations bull. From the short write-up on VWN:<br
/> MTV announced its dedication to the idea of One Avatar, One World in Jeff Yapp&amp;#8217&#8230;</p></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SL Reports &#124;&#124;&#124; Your Virtual Worlds News Source - Virtual Lower East Side</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/comment-page-1/#comment-124590</link> <dc:creator>SL Reports &#124;&#124;&#124; Your Virtual Worlds News Source - Virtual Lower East Side</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:27:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/#comment-124590</guid> <description></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div
style="padding:15px; border-left:1px solid #dedede; border-bottom:3px solid #CCEBF7; background-color:#fcfeff"><p>[...] guys are looking at virtual worlds simply isn’t the same way anyone else is. READ IT ALL HERE: <a
href="http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/.." rel="nofollow">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/..</a>.    [...]</p></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Game Tycoon&#187;Blog Archive &#187; Articles of Interest</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/comment-page-1/#comment-124010</link> <dc:creator>Game Tycoon&#187;Blog Archive &#187; Articles of Interest</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 07:36:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/#comment-124010</guid> <description>[...] has launched its fifth virtual world in a year, &#8220;Virtual Lower East Side,&#8221; a very detailed replica of the actual Lower East [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div
style="padding:15px; border-left:1px solid #dedede; border-bottom:3px solid #CCEBF7; background-color:#fcfeff"><p>[...] has launched its fifth virtual world in a year, &#8220;Virtual Lower East Side,&#8221; a very detailed replica of the actual Lower East [...]</p></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: csven</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/comment-page-1/#comment-123849</link> <dc:creator>csven</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:16:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/#comment-123849</guid> <description>Heavily-trafficked Web 2.0ish site Mashable reported on this and included the following:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Having an open source format for the continued development of VLES&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I asked Mashable to clarify but there&#039;s been no response. I&#039;m guessing this is a mistake, but has anyone heard something like this coming out of Doppelganger?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heavily-trafficked Web 2.0ish site Mashable reported on this and included the following:</p><blockquote><p>Having an open source format for the continued development of VLES</p></blockquote><p>I asked Mashable to clarify but there&#8217;s been no response. I&#8217;m guessing this is a mistake, but has anyone heard something like this coming out of Doppelganger?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Avatars Roam a Virtual Replica of the Lower East Side</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/comment-page-1/#comment-123840</link> <dc:creator>Avatars Roam a Virtual Replica of the Lower East Side</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:43:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/#comment-123840</guid> <description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] some critique  [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div
style="padding:15px; border-left:1px solid #dedede; border-bottom:3px solid #CCEBF7; background-color:#fcfeff"><p>[...] some critique  [...]</p></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Under the Radar - &#160;Blog</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/comment-page-1/#comment-123823</link> <dc:creator>Under the Radar - &#160;Blog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:58:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/#comment-123823</guid> <description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] on the act. Virtual visit to Stanton Social, anyone? Seen and Heard:Famed game designer Raph Koster blogged about VLES last night and&#160; concluded [of Viacom/MTV]:&#160; &quot;The way in which these guys are looking at [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div
style="padding:15px; border-left:1px solid #dedede; border-bottom:3px solid #CCEBF7; background-color:#fcfeff"><p>[...] on the act. Virtual visit to Stanton Social, anyone? Seen and Heard:Famed game designer Raph Koster blogged about VLES last night and&nbsp; concluded [of Viacom/MTV]:&nbsp; &#8220;The way in which these guys are looking at [...]</p></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Morgan Ramsay</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/comment-page-1/#comment-123795</link> <dc:creator>Morgan Ramsay</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:31:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/#comment-123795</guid> <description>Adding on to csven&#039;s criticism of the Web side of vLES...
* Invincible widgets. I&#039;d like to remove many of the widgets on &lt;a&gt;my&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vles.com/node/1625&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pages&lt;/a&gt;.
* Divided profiles. I don&#039;t like having a user profile in addition to an artist profile. I would have preferred simply an artist account.
* Trendy lingo. I&#039;m not keen on the trendy localization. Let&#039;s be BFFs? No thanks. I don&#039;t even like &quot;Add Friend&quot;.
* Profane localization. The &quot;Us, Us, Us!&quot; widget includes a section titled &quot;Tell us a story about the most fucked-up show you&#039;ve ever played.&quot; Couldn&#039;t this have simply been &quot;Tell us an interesting story&quot;? Or how about customizable section headings?
* Bandocentric. Artists are referred to as bands. I&#039;m not a band. I&#039;m solo.
* Male-ific. BFFs/Friends are called &quot;Bros&quot;. I don&#039;t think that term is gender-neutral.
* No stats. Where&#039;s my profile/music metrics? Maybe AudioStreet spoiled me. If vLES is going to be used to promote artists, there should be tools for that purpose.
The more I think about it, the more I don&#039;t like the Web side of vLES. All that stuff should be integrated into the client. When you view someone&#039;s profile from the client, the external browser opens. The website should just be a place to get people started.
I know vLES is still in alpha, but I&#039;ve tested alpha games before and there was a lot more done in them than what vLES provides.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding on to csven&#8217;s criticism of the Web side of vLES&#8230;</p><p>* Invincible widgets. I&#8217;d like to remove many of the widgets on <a>my</a> <a
href="http://www.vles.com/node/1625" rel="nofollow">pages</a>.</p><p>* Divided profiles. I don&#8217;t like having a user profile in addition to an artist profile. I would have preferred simply an artist account.</p><p>* Trendy lingo. I&#8217;m not keen on the trendy localization. Let&#8217;s be BFFs? No thanks. I don&#8217;t even like &quot;Add Friend&quot;.</p><p>* Profane localization. The &quot;Us, Us, Us!&quot; widget includes a section titled &quot;Tell us a story about the most fucked-up show you&#8217;ve ever played.&quot; Couldn&#8217;t this have simply been &quot;Tell us an interesting story&quot;? Or how about customizable section headings?</p><p>* Bandocentric. Artists are referred to as bands. I&#8217;m not a band. I&#8217;m solo.</p><p>* Male-ific. BFFs/Friends are called &quot;Bros&quot;. I don&#8217;t think that term is gender-neutral.</p><p>* No stats. Where&#8217;s my profile/music metrics? Maybe AudioStreet spoiled me. If vLES is going to be used to promote artists, there should be tools for that purpose.</p><p>The more I think about it, the more I don&#8217;t like the Web side of vLES. All that stuff should be integrated into the client. When you view someone&#8217;s profile from the client, the external browser opens. The website should just be a place to get people started.</p><p>I know vLES is still in alpha, but I&#8217;ve tested alpha games before and there was a lot more done in them than what vLES provides.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: csven</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/comment-page-1/#comment-123789</link> <dc:creator>csven</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:44:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/06/13/virtual-lower-east-side/#comment-123789</guid> <description>I tested this last night. It&#039;s a big download at about 118Mb. Still in alpha.  Few things bothered me:
- too dark and claustrophic (i.e. the scale may be accurate but it&#039;s tough to manuever in those tight spaces)
- same basic app as The Lounge and Tyra of course, but I needed a new account to log in. Bummer that.
- even with the download, teleporting from club to club took a while for everything to load. I suspect some of that comes from textures not being optimized as the geometry didn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;seem&lt;/em&gt; heavy. Speaking of which, I found the environments a bit too disconnected from the cell-shaded avatars. I liked the Lounge, but this pushed it too far, imo. A &lt;em&gt;bit&lt;/em&gt; less realistic and somewhat more stylized would be nice.
(I should cut-n-paste this for the devs)
The web-based side was interesting. They provide users with a blog and whatnot. A bit like Kaneva in that regard.
Oh, and American Apparel is in it. Figures.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tested this last night. It&#8217;s a big download at about 118Mb. Still in alpha.  Few things bothered me:</p><p>- too dark and claustrophic (i.e. the scale may be accurate but it&#8217;s tough to manuever in those tight spaces)<br
/> - same basic app as The Lounge and Tyra of course, but I needed a new account to log in. Bummer that.<br
/> - even with the download, teleporting from club to club took a while for everything to load. I suspect some of that comes from textures not being optimized as the geometry didn&#8217;t <em>seem</em> heavy. Speaking of which, I found the environments a bit too disconnected from the cell-shaded avatars. I liked the Lounge, but this pushed it too far, imo. A <em>bit</em> less realistic and somewhat more stylized would be nice.</p><p>(I should cut-n-paste this for the devs)</p><p>The web-based side was interesting. They provide users with a blog and whatnot. A bit like Kaneva in that regard.</p><p>Oh, and American Apparel is in it. Figures.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
