Comments on: Class action suit against IGE http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/ Raph Koster's personal website: MMOs, gaming, writing, art, music, books Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:57:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: CmdrSlack.com » Lawsuits, Lawsuits, Everywhere! (Bragg v. Linden Lab and the IGE Class Action) http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/comment-page-1/#comment-130741 CmdrSlack.com » Lawsuits, Lawsuits, Everywhere! (Bragg v. Linden Lab and the IGE Class Action) Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:31:33 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/#comment-130741 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] on, we have another case reported by both Lum and Raph. In a move that I can only describe as “nutty” (which is a complex legal term), someone [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%-->

[...] on, we have another case reported by both Lum and Raph. In a move that I can only describe as “nutty” (which is a complex legal term), someone [...]

]]> By: Wut Oh, Part Two http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/comment-page-1/#comment-129428 Wut Oh, Part Two Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:52:48 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/#comment-129428 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] you could see Blizzard entering into the suit… on IGE’s side. Because as Raph put it in his comments, Should Blizzard devalue their own currency, would a class action suit appear against them for that? [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%-->

[...] you could see Blizzard entering into the suit… on IGE’s side. Because as Raph put it in his comments, Should Blizzard devalue their own currency, would a class action suit appear against them for that? [...]

]]> By: One gold spam thread to rule them all - Page 5 - The Lord of the Rings Online™: Shadows of Angmar™ Forums http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/comment-page-1/#comment-127949 One gold spam thread to rule them all - Page 5 - The Lord of the Rings Online™: Shadows of Angmar™ Forums Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:03:15 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/#comment-127949 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] on the grounds that the sellers were degrading the plaintiffs' paid-for game experience. http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31...t-against-ige/ __________________ --------------------- The road goes ever on and on... as long as you stop at [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%-->

[...] on the grounds that the sellers were degrading the plaintiffs’ paid-for game experience. http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31…t-against-ige/ __________________ ——————— The road goes ever on and on… as long as you stop at [...]

]]> By: Massive.Update++ at MMOG Nation http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/comment-page-1/#comment-123547 Massive.Update++ at MMOG Nation Sun, 10 Jun 2007 05:29:43 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/#comment-123547 [...] the most sensational is the class action lawsuit leveled against IGEthey’re devaluing the in-game monetary worth (pdf) of every single World of Warcraft player. [...]

[...] the most sensational is the class action lawsuit leveled against IGEthey’re devaluing the in-game monetary worth (pdf) of every single World of Warcraft player. [...]

]]> By: Massive Update: Weekly MMO News news from 1UP.com http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/comment-page-1/#comment-123511 Massive Update: Weekly MMO News news from 1UP.com Fri, 08 Jun 2007 20:44:11 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/#comment-123511 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] a pair of equally landmark Massive-related court conflicts. Certainly the most sensational is the class action lawsuit leveled against IGE by a player in Florida. Essentially, IGE is getting sued because they're devaluing the in-game [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%-->

[...] a pair of equally landmark Massive-related court conflicts. Certainly the most sensational is the class action lawsuit leveled against IGE by a player in Florida. Essentially, IGE is getting sued because they’re devaluing the in-game [...]

]]> By: ACC Verkauf - Seite 5 - daoc-guide.de http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/comment-page-1/#comment-123374 ACC Verkauf - Seite 5 - daoc-guide.de Wed, 06 Jun 2007 14:30:08 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/#comment-123374

[...] Zitat von Holzkohle Den hier find ich spassiger ;.-) http://www.gamestar.de/news/pc/spiel…_warcraft.html und Tschüß http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31…t-against-ige/ [...]

]]> By: Chris http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/comment-page-1/#comment-123345 Chris Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:00:02 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/#comment-123345 If Blizzard were sincere about a solution, they would fix the in-game economics. They maintain a price structure for mounts that makes it prohibitive and drives players to an alternative means to secure gold. Also, the prices in the AH need to be regulated to avoid the massive overpricing of items. Items should be prohibited from being priced at more than 10x the vendor value, and if an item doesn't sell the seller should receive the basic vendor rate and the item is then removed from in-game inventory instead of returned. Those are two relatively easy advances in eliminating the inflated price structure that drives the demand for gold. If Blizzard were sincere about a solution, they would fix the in-game economics. They maintain a price structure for mounts that makes it prohibitive and drives players to an alternative means to secure gold. Also, the prices in the AH need to be regulated to avoid the massive overpricing of items. Items should be prohibited from being priced at more than 10x the vendor value, and if an item doesn’t sell the seller should receive the basic vendor rate and the item is then removed from in-game inventory instead of returned. Those are two relatively easy advances in eliminating the inflated price structure that drives the demand for gold.

]]> By: RAY YU .: Ray of Light http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/comment-page-1/#comment-123337 RAY YU .: Ray of Light Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:23:48 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/#comment-123337 <strong>Class Action Lawsuit Against IGE...</strong> Besides Blizzard’s lawsuit against Peons4Hire, the players have taken matters into their own hands by filing a class action lawsuit against IGE, citing: IGE’s gold farming activities not only substantially diminish the enjoyment and satisfa...

Class Action Lawsuit Against IGE…

Besides Blizzard’s lawsuit against Peons4Hire, the players have taken matters into their own hands by filing a class action lawsuit against IGE, citing:
IGE’s gold farming activities not only substantially diminish the enjoyment and satisfa…

]]> By: Raph http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/comment-page-1/#comment-123335 Raph Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:04:59 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/#comment-123335 Andy, we keep trying to block the gold sales ads, but they manage to get through anyway. I am probably leaving hundreds on the table by blocking the single largest category of ad. :P Andy, we keep trying to block the gold sales ads, but they manage to get through anyway. I am probably leaving hundreds on the table by blocking the single largest category of ad. :P

]]> By: Andy Wright http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/comment-page-1/#comment-123328 Andy Wright Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:41:41 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/31/class-action-suit-against-ige/#comment-123328 It's ironic - as I type this on Raph's site there are 2 ads immediately below the reply box selling "gold" (ISK) in Eve. I'm of the opinion that RMT is by far the biggest threat to MMORPG's extant today and anything that seeks to reduce it is "a good thing". It warps game design since any in-game economic model has to cope with rampant botting,duping and farming. It also encourages criminal activity (i.e. keylogger injection via advertising), by offering real-world incentive to in-game cheating. One thing that occurs to me: Could IGE's activities not be compared to those of people who push "banned" (as opposed to illegal) performance enhancing drugs to athletes? Are there any other real-world comparisions that could be made? It’s ironic – as I type this on Raph’s site there are 2 ads immediately below the reply box selling “gold” (ISK) in Eve.

I’m of the opinion that RMT is by far the biggest threat to MMORPG’s extant today and anything that seeks to reduce it is “a good thing”. It warps game design since any in-game economic model has to cope with rampant botting,duping and farming. It also encourages criminal activity (i.e. keylogger injection via advertising), by offering real-world incentive to in-game cheating.

One thing that occurs to me: Could IGE’s activities not be compared to those of people who push “banned” (as opposed to illegal) performance enhancing drugs to athletes? Are there any other real-world comparisions that could be made?

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