Comments on: Is a standard lurking? http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/ Raph Koster's personal website: MMOs, gaming, writing, art, music, books Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:33:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: The Other Here » Blog Archive » Ogoglio’s Trevor F. Smith at Thursday’s NY Metaverse Meetup, UpNext Up Next http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/comment-page-1/#comment-123388 The Other Here » Blog Archive » Ogoglio’s Trevor F. Smith at Thursday’s NY Metaverse Meetup, UpNext Up Next Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:15:17 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/#comment-123388 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] I see being worked on but don’t really have a grasp on where it is though it comes up in the same breath as Open Croquet, SL’s OpenSim, Open Source Metverse Project, Uni-Verse, and [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%-->

[...] I see being worked on but don’t really have a grasp on where it is though it comes up in the same breath as Open Croquet, SL’s OpenSim, Open Source Metverse Project, Uni-Verse, and [...]

]]> By: Global Online Cities: Trevor F. Smith and Ogoglio Next Thursday, June 7th - Metaverse Meetup (Brooklyn, NY) - Meetup.com http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/comment-page-1/#comment-123194 Global Online Cities: Trevor F. Smith and Ogoglio Next Thursday, June 7th - Metaverse Meetup (Brooklyn, NY) - Meetup.com Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:04:46 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/#comment-123194 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] spaces "Is A Standard Lurking?" and begins with Open Croquet and Ogoglio as top examples: http://www.raphkoster... [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%-->

[...] spaces "Is A Standard Lurking?" and begins with Open Croquet and Ogoglio as top examples: http://www.raphkoster... [...]

]]> By: Peter Amstutz http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/comment-page-1/#comment-123154 Peter Amstutz Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:03:42 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/#comment-123154 The Interreality Project is still very active, although you are correct in noting that the FAQ (and a number of other parts of the site) haven't been updated in years. We have taken a long view of trying to get the fundamental technology right, rather than building a flashy product that ultimately doesn't scale up. Unfortunately, this has also meant we've gone through a couple cycles of throwing everything out and rewriting it from scratch, so the actual end-user 3D client is in a perpetual state of "proof of concept" rather than being something that you can download and start doing development within the platform right away. The new design under development will change this by ensuring that scripting support is a fundamental feature, which should drastically lower the barriers to entry for developers and users. What it really comes down to is that crafting software for virtual worlds is <em>hard</em>. It involves a tremendously long list of requirements, and fundamentally every virtual world that's been created so far has only done so by skipping over various fundamental features -- which is why people are dissatisfied with the current software. The "3D Mosaic" (or Netscape) doesn't exist yet. The Interreality Project is still very active, although you are correct in noting that the FAQ (and a number of other parts of the site) haven’t been updated in years. We have taken a long view of trying to get the fundamental technology right, rather than building a flashy product that ultimately doesn’t scale up.

Unfortunately, this has also meant we’ve gone through a couple cycles of throwing everything out and rewriting it from scratch, so the actual end-user 3D client is in a perpetual state of “proof of concept” rather than being something that you can download and start doing development within the platform right away.

The new design under development will change this by ensuring that scripting support is a fundamental feature, which should drastically lower the barriers to entry for developers and users.

What it really comes down to is that crafting software for virtual worlds is hard. It involves a tremendously long list of requirements, and fundamentally every virtual world that’s been created so far has only done so by skipping over various fundamental features — which is why people are dissatisfied with the current software. The “3D Mosaic” (or Netscape) doesn’t exist yet.

]]> By: chocorisu http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/comment-page-1/#comment-123090 chocorisu Thu, 31 May 2007 16:51:20 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/#comment-123090 Uni-Verse seem to have their shit together way better than everyone else. Design a protocol, implement it as libraries then create a client using libraries. Unless I can come along and design my own super-duper client and/or server using my own custom libraries that run the common protocols, there's no way it's going to catch on. Plus they have a flashy website and that makes me take them more seriously because I'm kind of superficial that way. *ahem* Uni-Verse seem to have their shit together way better than everyone else. Design a protocol, implement it as libraries then create a client using libraries. Unless I can come along and design my own super-duper client and/or server using my own custom libraries that run the common protocols, there’s no way it’s going to catch on.

Plus they have a flashy website and that makes me take them more seriously because I’m kind of superficial that way. *ahem*

]]> By: csven http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/comment-page-1/#comment-123089 csven Thu, 31 May 2007 16:03:28 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/#comment-123089 I've been watching <a href="http://www.vscape.com/" rel="nofollow">VScape</a> for a few years (@Trevor, they got "Emily" long before you did, though I don't know if Kerry is using the model). I’ve been watching VScape for a few years

(@Trevor, they got “Emily” long before you did, though I don’t know if Kerry is using the model).

]]> By: chris sherman http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/comment-page-1/#comment-123059 chris sherman Wed, 30 May 2007 23:33:19 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/#comment-123059 we just ran something on Yoick/Outback and Warb. Mostly the article is about Warb which is pretty cool imho. link here http://www.virtualworldsnews.com/2007/05/a_preview_of_wa.html we just ran something on Yoick/Outback and Warb. Mostly the article is about Warb which is pretty cool imho. link here http://www.virtualworldsnews.com/2007/05/a_preview_of_wa.html

]]> By: Trevor F. Smith http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/comment-page-1/#comment-123058 Trevor F. Smith Wed, 30 May 2007 23:33:08 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/#comment-123058 And the <a href="http://muppets.rit.edu/muppetsweb/about/index.php" rel="nofollow">M.U.P.P.E.T.S.</a> project at RIT. And the M.U.P.P.E.T.S. project at RIT.

]]> By: Trevor F. Smith http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/comment-page-1/#comment-123055 Trevor F. Smith Wed, 30 May 2007 23:29:09 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/#comment-123055 And the <a href="http://metaverse.sourceforge.net/" rel="nofollow">Open Source Metaverse Project</a>. And the Open Source Metaverse Project.

]]> By: Trevor F. Smith http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/comment-page-1/#comment-123054 Trevor F. Smith Wed, 30 May 2007 23:26:14 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/05/30/is-a-standard-lurking/#comment-123054 Don't forget <a href="http://opensecondlife.org/wiki/OpenSim" rel="nofollow">OpenSim</a>. Don’t forget OpenSim.

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