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> <channel><title>Comments on: Webkinz &amp; kin: yet more mammals</title> <atom:link href="http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/</link> <description>Raph Koster&#039;s personal website: MMOs, gaming, writing, art, music, books</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:23:34 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Penguin Webkins - Dogpile Web Search</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/comment-page-1/#comment-131050</link> <dc:creator>Penguin Webkins - Dogpile Web Search</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:00:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/#comment-131050</guid> <description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] relating to penguin webkins      Sponsored by: www.toseeka.org  [Found on Ads by Ask.com]     26.  Raph&#039;s Website &quot; Webkinz &amp; kin: yet more mammals    In fact, you can buy the server Club Penguin is built on for 3500 Euro. ... webkins - Web - [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div
style="padding:15px; border-left:1px solid #dedede; border-bottom:3px solid #CCEBF7; background-color:#fcfeff"><p>[...] relating to penguin webkins      Sponsored by: <a
href="http://www.toseeka.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.toseeka.org</a> [Found on Ads by Ask.com]     26.  Raph&#8217;s Website &quot; Webkinz &amp; kin: yet more mammals    In fact, you can buy the server Club Penguin is built on for 3500 Euro. &#8230; webkins &#8211; Web &#8211; [...]</p></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: webkins - Web - WebCrawler</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/comment-page-1/#comment-128628</link> <dc:creator>webkins - Web - WebCrawler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:03:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/#comment-128628</guid> <description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...]        &#8226;  webkins.org    null      webkins.org        &#8226;  Raph&#039;s Website &quot; Webkinz &amp; kin: yet more mammals    Raph Koster&#039;s personal website: MMOs, gaming, writing, art, music, books. ... a lot more [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div
style="padding:15px; border-left:1px solid #dedede; border-bottom:3px solid #CCEBF7; background-color:#fcfeff"><p>[...]        &bull;  webkins.org    null      webkins.org        &bull;  Raph&#8217;s Website &quot; Webkinz &amp; kin: yet more mammals    Raph Koster&#8217;s personal website: MMOs, gaming, writing, art, music, books. &#8230; a lot more [...]</p></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PlayNoEvil Game Security, Game Cheating, Gold Farming and RMT News &#38; Analysis</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/comment-page-1/#comment-120501</link> <dc:creator>PlayNoEvil Game Security, Game Cheating, Gold Farming and RMT News &#38; Analysis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 14:29:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/#comment-120501</guid> <description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] strategy is something that should have a lot more attention - and Raph&#039;s article on the toy Webkins is a great example.  There are massive, untapped business opportunities that are lying at our feet [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div
style="padding:15px; border-left:1px solid #dedede; border-bottom:3px solid #CCEBF7; background-color:#fcfeff"><p>[...] strategy is something that should have a lot more attention &#8211; and Raph&#8217;s article on the toy Webkins is a great example.  There are massive, untapped business opportunities that are lying at our feet [...]</p></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rcarca10</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/comment-page-1/#comment-104455</link> <dc:creator>rcarca10</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 04:14:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/#comment-104455</guid> <description>yo im having a HUGE compatishon on webkinz 2 enter all u have 2 do is add me my user is rcarca10 and then send a gift ther will be a first second and third and even forth prize the first place winner will reseeve a rock star tv worth 1000 kinz cash +3 food items how cool is that any way second place will reseeve a rock star poster and a 10% w shop coupon and third place will reseeve a clothing item of any kind and forth place will get 2 food items u have till feb third 2 enter the prises
will be given on feb 4 thx enter now!!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yo im having a HUGE compatishon on webkinz 2 enter all u have 2 do is add me my user is rcarca10 and then send a gift ther will be a first second and third and even forth prize the first place winner will reseeve a rock star tv worth 1000 kinz cash +3 food items how cool is that any way second place will reseeve a rock star poster and a 10% w shop coupon and third place will reseeve a clothing item of any kind and forth place will get 2 food items u have till feb third 2 enter the prises<br
/> will be given on feb 4 thx enter now!!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bloggers &#124; The Cesspit.</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/comment-page-1/#comment-103699</link> <dc:creator>Bloggers &#124; The Cesspit.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 04:26:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/#comment-103699</guid> <description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] changing hands, and the consistent [...] Source: BrokenToys - Lum Categories: Bloggers    03:55  Webkinz &amp; kin: yet more mammals Continuing on the theme of massively multiplayer worlds that people don’t pay attention to, [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div
style="padding:15px; border-left:1px solid #dedede; border-bottom:3px solid #CCEBF7; background-color:#fcfeff"><p>[...] changing hands, and the consistent [...] Source: BrokenToys &#8211; Lum Categories: Bloggers    03:55  Webkinz &amp; kin: yet more mammals Continuing on the theme of massively multiplayer worlds that people don’t pay attention to, [...]</p></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: darniaq</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/comment-page-1/#comment-102857</link> <dc:creator>darniaq</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 02:11:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/#comment-102857</guid> <description>These are not girl games.
Miuchiz Monsterz is just one of three MMOs from MGA Entertainment, all built concurrently, all using a common graphics engine, one including a license (Bratz).
Club Penguin has topped Miniclip.com&#039;s charts almost since launch. This is Miniclips, the &lt;i&gt;casual&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;free&lt;/i&gt; online games service. Club Penguin itself carries a fee, and yet continuously is in the top 3 for the free place.
Webkinz is interesting because it&#039;s not really a PSW in the traditional sense, but can be billed as one. The point of entry is the same as the MGA titles: buy hardware for a cost, get access to a world. MGA spent close to $20mil on their system, and their handheld lets you play that character in offline mode (it&#039;s not that great, but it&#039;s the first of it&#039;s time).
As we&#039;ve all been saying, times are a changin&#039;. The folks only looking at WoW were the same only looking at EQ1. Same game, same target market. The world has up and changed all around them, but that golden 8mil subscription mark drowns out such things. The forward-looking groups are looking at the &lt;i&gt;emerging&lt;/i&gt; players, the younger ones, the casual adult ones.
This is why I feel that WoW won&#039;t be topped by another diku. It&#039;ll be topped when the measure of success is changed. Heck, Maplestory and Habbo have RADICALLY more accounts than WoW, and much higher ARPU. And the games cost &lt;i&gt;way&lt;/i&gt; less to make. And they offer functionally similar game play with more deep rewards. And of course are microtrans :)
WoW capped one way of delivering success. There&#039;s a few others.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are not girl games.</p><p>Miuchiz Monsterz is just one of three MMOs from MGA Entertainment, all built concurrently, all using a common graphics engine, one including a license (Bratz).</p><p>Club Penguin has topped Miniclip.com&#8217;s charts almost since launch. This is Miniclips, the <i>casual</i> and <i>free</i> online games service. Club Penguin itself carries a fee, and yet continuously is in the top 3 for the free place.</p><p>Webkinz is interesting because it&#8217;s not really a PSW in the traditional sense, but can be billed as one. The point of entry is the same as the MGA titles: buy hardware for a cost, get access to a world. MGA spent close to $20mil on their system, and their handheld lets you play that character in offline mode (it&#8217;s not that great, but it&#8217;s the first of it&#8217;s time).</p><p>As we&#8217;ve all been saying, times are a changin&#8217;. The folks only looking at WoW were the same only looking at EQ1. Same game, same target market. The world has up and changed all around them, but that golden 8mil subscription mark drowns out such things. The forward-looking groups are looking at the <i>emerging</i> players, the younger ones, the casual adult ones.</p><p>This is why I feel that WoW won&#8217;t be topped by another diku. It&#8217;ll be topped when the measure of success is changed. Heck, Maplestory and Habbo have RADICALLY more accounts than WoW, and much higher ARPU. And the games cost <i>way</i> less to make. And they offer functionally similar game play with more deep rewards. And of course are microtrans <img
src='http://www.raphkoster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>WoW capped one way of delivering success. There&#8217;s a few others.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt Forbeck</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/comment-page-1/#comment-102499</link> <dc:creator>Matt Forbeck</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:19:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/#comment-102499</guid> <description>Have you seen &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.miuchiz.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Miuchiz&lt;/a&gt;? It&#039;s a handheld video game for kids (kind of a tamagotchi), with a USB port. You attach it to a Windows machine, fire it up, and it grants you permission to play in a virtual world that&#039;s essentially an MMORPG for kids. The packaging is obtuse, and I didn&#039;t recognize that the handheld has this function until after I got it up and running. They started out at around $50, but I understand the price has fallen to closer to $20 these days.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen <a
href="http://www.miuchiz.com/" rel="nofollow">Miuchiz</a>? It&#8217;s a handheld video game for kids (kind of a tamagotchi), with a USB port. You attach it to a Windows machine, fire it up, and it grants you permission to play in a virtual world that&#8217;s essentially an MMORPG for kids. The packaging is obtuse, and I didn&#8217;t recognize that the handheld has this function until after I got it up and running. They started out at around $50, but I understand the price has fallen to closer to $20 these days.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Allen Sligar</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/comment-page-1/#comment-102492</link> <dc:creator>Allen Sligar</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:03:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/#comment-102492</guid> <description>&quot;But, from the legal point of view, it’s easier to develop a game for adults than navigate the minefield that is dealing with children customers online.&quot;
Thats so true, we had to completly exclude those below 13 from GLM. The legal ramifacations and privacy concerns as well as the other features of the site preclude having 7-12 year olds.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But, from the legal point of view, it’s easier to develop a game for adults than navigate the minefield that is dealing with children customers online.&#8221;</p><p>Thats so true, we had to completly exclude those below 13 from GLM. The legal ramifacations and privacy concerns as well as the other features of the site preclude having 7-12 year olds.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JuJutsu</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/comment-page-1/#comment-102459</link> <dc:creator>JuJutsu</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:13:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/#comment-102459</guid> <description>Prokofy is probably right about the central tendency but there IS variance there. In SWG I spent much more time playing my Image Designer than my TKA and more time on hairdos and makeovers than fighting. Moreover, the majority of my customers were male avatars [who knows who was at the keyboard]. Granted it was a slim majority but I was tickled by the fact that many of the most combat oriented eventually decided it would be nice to actually have a chin on their avatar ;)
As for houses and stuff to put in them...another arena for achievers to stay ahead of the Joneses. Especially if housing, guild halls etc are publicly visible.
Based on a n of 5 it&#039;s true that the 3 males are generally more combat oriented than the 2 females. But it&#039;s not as simple as &quot;boyz fight, gurlz don&#039;t&quot;. Both my wife and my daughter are not at all averse to fighting. The difference seems to be that they are less likely to fight just to be fighting, they fight when something gets in the way of them obtaining an object that they want.
I think Raph put his finger on the most important factor for these games: age.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prokofy is probably right about the central tendency but there IS variance there. In SWG I spent much more time playing my Image Designer than my TKA and more time on hairdos and makeovers than fighting. Moreover, the majority of my customers were male avatars [who knows who was at the keyboard]. Granted it was a slim majority but I was tickled by the fact that many of the most combat oriented eventually decided it would be nice to actually have a chin on their avatar <img
src='http://www.raphkoster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>As for houses and stuff to put in them&#8230;another arena for achievers to stay ahead of the Joneses. Especially if housing, guild halls etc are publicly visible.</p><p>Based on a n of 5 it&#8217;s true that the 3 males are generally more combat oriented than the 2 females. But it&#8217;s not as simple as &#8220;boyz fight, gurlz don&#8217;t&#8221;. Both my wife and my daughter are not at all averse to fighting. The difference seems to be that they are less likely to fight just to be fighting, they fight when something gets in the way of them obtaining an object that they want.</p><p>I think Raph put his finger on the most important factor for these games: age.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michael Hardt</title><link>http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/comment-page-1/#comment-102457</link> <dc:creator>Michael Hardt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:12:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/01/22/webkinz-kin-yet-more-mammals/#comment-102457</guid> <description>You&#039;re right.  I&#039;m just old.  I read some of the press stories on Club Penguin, and I see that I had missed this phenomenon completely.
As a parent, I&#039;m kind of glad my eight-year-old is building Legos instead of doing this, but I wonder if he&#039;s missing something.  Apart from short-term amusement, are there benefits attached to a child&#039;s interacting in an online virtual world?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right.  I&#8217;m just old.  I read some of the press stories on Club Penguin, and I see that I had missed this phenomenon completely.</p><p>As a parent, I&#8217;m kind of glad my eight-year-old is building Legos instead of doing this, but I wonder if he&#8217;s missing something.  Apart from short-term amusement, are there benefits attached to a child&#8217;s interacting in an online virtual world?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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