Comments on: Kissing cousin cultures http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/ Raph Koster's personal website: MMOs, gaming, writing, art, music, books Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:02:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: cons | most popular | mister-wong.comhttp://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/comment-page-1/#comment-127561 cons | most popular | mister-wong.com Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:43:01 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/#comment-127561 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] scifi sf cosplay cons conventions trooper [»] Added >30 days ago by PaulRaven, 2 Users saveKissing cousin cultures "SF has always been a ghetto genre, of course, and has struggled for legitimacy for its whole [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%-->

[...] scifi sf cosplay cons conventions trooper [»] Added >30 days ago by PaulRaven, 2 Users saveKissing cousin cultures "SF has always been a ghetto genre, of course, and has struggled for legitimacy for its whole [...]

]]> By: Velcro City Tourist Board » Blog Archive » Links for 18-10-2006http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/comment-page-1/#comment-29919 Velcro City Tourist Board » Blog Archive » Links for 18-10-2006 Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:19:57 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/#comment-29919 [...] 11 - Kissing cousin cultures “SF has always been a ghetto genre, of course, and has struggled for legitimacy for its whole existence. The result is that it has a much stronger sense of its own history.” Raph Koster digs sf cons! Via Tobias Buckell. (tags: fandom community cons conventions character genre culture sf scifi fiction science) [...]

[...] 11 – Kissing cousin cultures “SF has always been a ghetto genre, of course, and has struggled for legitimacy for its whole existence. The result is that it has a much stronger sense of its own history.” Raph Koster digs sf cons! Via Tobias Buckell. (tags: fandom community cons conventions character genre culture sf scifi fiction science) [...]

]]> By: Raphhttp://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/comment-page-1/#comment-29785 Raph Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:16:13 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/#comment-29785 Oh, I didn't <i>spill</i> it. That happened somehow when Peter Beagle got up to greet him and Janis Ian. I just happened to be closest to the napkins. Oh, I didn’t spill it. That happened somehow when Peter Beagle got up to greet him and Janis Ian. I just happened to be closest to the napkins.

]]> By: Dreyhttp://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/comment-page-1/#comment-29748 Drey Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:27:38 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/#comment-29748 "I wiped spilled coffee off of Harlan Ellison" Given his reputation, I'm amazed you survived that! “I wiped spilled coffee off of Harlan Ellison”

Given his reputation, I’m amazed you survived that!

]]> By: Julie Hhttp://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/comment-page-1/#comment-29553 Julie H Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:48:03 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/#comment-29553 I've experienced this while working in the hobby game industry. Every show seems to bring the same people, and I expect to be able to talk to people I've seen at the last show. A few shows that I really enjoy are Kublacon in San Francisco and Origins. GenCon is also totally worth going to. I’ve experienced this while working in the hobby game industry. Every show seems to bring the same people, and I expect to be able to talk to people I’ve seen at the last show.

A few shows that I really enjoy are Kublacon in San Francisco and Origins. GenCon is also totally worth going to.

]]> By: Tobias S. Buckell Online » Blog Archive » As outsiders see ushttp://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/comment-page-1/#comment-29105 Tobias S. Buckell Online » Blog Archive » As outsiders see us Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:22:11 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/#comment-29105 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Raph Koster is a well known figure in the gaming and more specifically, the gaming development community. I met him at Worldcon and he had some interesting observations of what he observed going on, and now I see he’s written them up in his blog: A huge part of the SF community seems to be “acceptance.” The folks at Worldcon were simply a far more diverse bunch. I mean, this is a con where there are panels on the subtleties of Tom Corbett Space Cadet, opposite a pirate vs ninja swordfighting competition, opposite a regency ballroom dancing class. SF is a more diverse community in gender: lots of women around, not something you see at gaming cons. There were lots of disabled people (lots of wheelchairs) and people with a variety of physical characteristics, ranging from the blind to dwarfism and kyphosis. There’s the annual blood drive, a decades-long tradition. I don’t actually see the mainstream gaming audience as being all that tolerant of this sort of thing, as evidenced even by the slang. [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%-->

[...] Raph Koster is a well known figure in the gaming and more specifically, the gaming development community. I met him at Worldcon and he had some interesting observations of what he observed going on, and now I see he’s written them up in his blog: A huge part of the SF community seems to be “acceptance.” The folks at Worldcon were simply a far more diverse bunch. I mean, this is a con where there are panels on the subtleties of Tom Corbett Space Cadet, opposite a pirate vs ninja swordfighting competition, opposite a regency ballroom dancing class. SF is a more diverse community in gender: lots of women around, not something you see at gaming cons. There were lots of disabled people (lots of wheelchairs) and people with a variety of physical characteristics, ranging from the blind to dwarfism and kyphosis. There’s the annual blood drive, a decades-long tradition. I don’t actually see the mainstream gaming audience as being all that tolerant of this sort of thing, as evidenced even by the slang. [...]

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]]> By: Raphhttp://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/comment-page-1/#comment-28923 Raph Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:04:52 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/#comment-28923 Eric: ComicCon is old hat, but believe it or not I have never been to a GenCon! Bill: It's a small world indeed if you know Eric. :) Eric: ComicCon is old hat, but believe it or not I have never been to a GenCon!

Bill: It’s a small world indeed if you know Eric. :)

]]> By: William Shunnhttp://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/comment-page-1/#comment-28778 William Shunn Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:38:27 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/#comment-28778 Interesting observations, Raph. You may have hit on a new branch of anthropology. Glad you walked among us, and hope to see you again! (And hi, Eric!) Bill Interesting observations, Raph. You may have hit on a new branch of anthropology. Glad you walked among us, and hope to see you again! (And hi, Eric!)

Bill

]]> By: Eric Goldberghttp://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/comment-page-1/#comment-28599 Eric Goldberg Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:59:32 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/14/kissing-cousin-cultures/#comment-28599 Raph, Enjoyed your entertaining and incisive report from the front. It would be interesting to read your field reports -- and 'compares and contrasts' -- from adventure game conferences, such as GenCon, and also of comic conferences, such as ComiCon. If your busy schedule prevents you from attending one of either in the near future, you can always consult with Steve Jackson (or me) about the former, and the latter is lovingly and hilariously depicted in an early scene of Kevin Smith's estimable "Chasing Amy" movie. Regards, Eric Raph,

Enjoyed your entertaining and incisive report from the front. It would be interesting to read your field reports — and ‘compares and contrasts’ — from adventure game conferences, such as GenCon, and also of comic conferences, such as ComiCon.

If your busy schedule prevents you from attending one of either in the near future, you can always consult with Steve Jackson (or me) about the former, and the latter is lovingly and hilariously depicted in an early scene of Kevin Smith’s estimable “Chasing Amy” movie.

Regards, Eric

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