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[...] presentation should give some idea how at least a portion of the team thinks on skills vs levels: Moving Beyond Men in Tights   [...]

[...] I’m really excited about being able to customize, but there are interesting counter-arguments beyond the technical hurdle. Top of the list is Damion Schubert’s bit on "tactical transparency" in PvP from his excellent AGC talk last year (Moving Beyond Men in Tights). In short, he claims that combat is more satisfying when you know who your enemy is, what he can do and what your options are. Stylized, class-based armor that everyone wears provides this. I think he’s right at least to some level, although I care more about how my character looks so I’m glad TCoS is trying this, we’ll get to see how it shakes out. It’s a very good talk about why MMO games are all the same and how innovation needs to be carefully applied. Seems like TCoS matches up pretty well with the sentiments. If you haven’t read it, here’s a copy: http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/09/08/agc-damion-schubert-moving-beyond-men-in-tights/ [...]

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[...] One of my favorite presentations at an industry event in the last couple of years comes from Damion Schubert, who gave a speech entitled Moving Beyond Men in Tights at the Austin Game Developer’s Conference. Although the speech isn’t available online, summaries are available here at GamaSutra, as well as on Raph Koster’s Blog. A longtime veteran of the MMO scene, Schubert delves into detail about why you see the same sort of combat systems over and over in RPGs and more. Fortunately, there are games that buck the trend. Developers can address a lot of these issues with very cleverly-designed games that focus on the user community as an ongoing hook — EVE Online is a great example (you can check out a free EVE trial at Fileplanet.com). In fact, to get back to reader Rhys and his letter that kicked this whole thing off, he’s been playing a lot of the space epic himself: “I decided to give EVE a try once again – fantastic! Though it’s not a hot brand new title, the developers have made strides in improving its interface, gameplay, everything. It’s quite impressive and it’s quite easy to see that they put care into their player community. It’s a refreshing change.” As always, email me your thoughts.       -Fargo Today’s Geek Stuff: [...]

[...] Everything the game has to offer should be available without requiring an exclusive choice from the player, and without requiring to be “reached” (the level 50 RvR in DAoC, raid content in EQ and WoW). Which also doesn’t mean that all the game world is completely open without requiring any effort (see “threshold advancement” in Ubiq’s speech). [...]

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