[...] by grimduck on 13 Nov 2007 10:54 http://www.cesspit.net/drupal/taxonomy/term/21http://www.zenofdesign.com/?p=704http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/08/28/do-classes-suck/ [...]

[...] been reading the debate on skills vs classes being revived again. Firstly, have a look at those blogs. They’re an interesting read, [...]

[...] I think I have liked most of the things I have heard and seen. Number one concern on my mind at the moment is probably the level & skill system or the restrictions on advancing in skills, to be more specific. I am pretty much all for free character advancement or at least free customization of your character (i.e no actual classes or such), but could live with a few restrictions (you can only be a Grandmaster on certain skill and Master on certain skill etc.). Player run governments, in-depth economics and all that sounds purely awesome and I can’t wait to experience them in action.So, you know, I approve. Continue. Heh.Edit: Here are some semi-interesting reads about classes vs. skill system (as in using a skill increases that specific skill) for all you peeps.http://www.zenofdesign.com/?p=704http://www.brokentoys.org/2006/08/24/ubiqs-a-classy-guy/http://weblog.probablynot.com/2006/08/24/stay-classy/http://www.nerfbat.com/?p=139http://steve.madrogue.com/index.php/2006/08/24/mmorpg-classes/http://www.moorgard.com/?p=75http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=660http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/707http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/ViewReply.asp?id=2968730 [...]

[...] by Steve (Sierra Kilo)"Like School in the Summertime" – blog by Steve Danuser (Moorgard)"Do Classes Suck?" – by Raph KosterIMGDC Class vs. Skill Debate – Follow-up after a roundtable [...]

[...] blog by Steve (Sierra Kilo) “Like School in the Summertime” – blog by Steve Danuser (Moorgard) “Do Classes Suck?” – by Raph Koster IMGDC Class vs. Skill Debate – Follow-up after a roundtable discussion [...]

[...] one link and got engrossed in a dozen different blogs for about an hour. My favourite article was this one, which very neatly explains the differences between class- and skill-based game systems. (I’m [...]

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[...] An hybrid system similar to what I have described would retain the advantages of classes that Raph pointed out as well (but not completely) the advantages of a skill-based system. And the concept of class adaptation and role switch would also address the other quirks about the “balance” (and “versatility”, which is a great strength in the eye of the players). [...]

[...] Interesting reads on classes vs. skills in MMORPGs. http://www.brokentoys.org/2006/08/24/ubiqs-a-classy-guy/ http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=660 http://www.nerfbat.com/?p=79 http://www.moorgard.com/?p=75 http://www.zenofdesign.com/?p=704 http://steve.madrogue.com/index.php/2006/08/24/mmorpg-classes/ http://weblog.probablynot.com/archives/2006/08/24/stay-classy/ [...]

[...]   Well I got into a discussion on the MMO boards about Class based (linear level progression) versus Skill based (modular character progression) games.  How they work and why some fail.  My whole thing was about how this discussion is old and is really about RPGs and not MMOs, though that was the focus of the discussion.   Link to original topic.   Link to my post on The Galaxy Report forum.  Where I bring up my version on the class vs skill based systems.   I thought that this might make an interesting topic.  Talking about what we think has made the RPGs work and not work and what we as gamers look for in a game (as in level of complexity in character creation and management). [...]