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]]> By: John Kirk http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/02/26/john-kirks-design-patterns-of-successful-roleplaying-games/comment-page-1/#comment-3227 John Kirk Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:47:30 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/02/26/john-kirks-design-patterns-of-successful-roleplaying-games/#comment-3227 <blockquote>It’s a nice attempt, but it doesn’t go far enough, and in several places it confuses structure for function.</blockquote> Please keep in mind that it's a rough draft. I've rethought some of the patterns since putting the book up on the website (most notably the Alignment pattern, which I've split into two separate patterns). I'm interested in your opinion about where you think I became confused about structure and function. (If you think this would take too much text for a blog comment, please feel free to contact me via e-mail through my website at legendaryquest.com.) As far as it not going far enough, I agree. Check out the appendix for some more pattern ideas. I've come up with some more since making the current draft version available. A couple of them I consider quite significant, but that discussion would be best left to a more appropriate venue.

It’s a nice attempt, but it doesn’t go far enough, and in several places it confuses structure for function.

Please keep in mind that it’s a rough draft. I’ve rethought some of the patterns since putting the book up on the website (most notably the Alignment pattern, which I’ve split into two separate patterns). I’m interested in your opinion about where you think I became confused about structure and function. (If you think this would take too much text for a blog comment, please feel free to contact me via e-mail through my website at legendaryquest.com.)

As far as it not going far enough, I agree. Check out the appendix for some more pattern ideas. I’ve come up with some more since making the current draft version available. A couple of them I consider quite significant, but that discussion would be best left to a more appropriate venue.

]]> By: Ridgway http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/02/26/john-kirks-design-patterns-of-successful-roleplaying-games/comment-page-1/#comment-3095 Ridgway Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:10:40 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/02/26/john-kirks-design-patterns-of-successful-roleplaying-games/#comment-3095 thanks much! thanks much!

]]> By: Glazius http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/02/26/john-kirks-design-patterns-of-successful-roleplaying-games/comment-page-1/#comment-3094 Glazius Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:54:32 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/02/26/john-kirks-design-patterns-of-successful-roleplaying-games/#comment-3094 Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. Okay, part of this is my fault for coming in on an unintended perspective. "Hey, I'm working on a way to codify RPG rules using XML! Maybe this'll be a nice jumping-off point- OW MY HEAD WHO TAUGHT THIS GUY ABSTRACTION?" It's a nice attempt, but it doesn't go far enough, and in several places it confuses structure for function. --GF Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow.

Okay, part of this is my fault for coming in on an unintended perspective.

“Hey, I’m working on a way to codify RPG rules using XML! Maybe this’ll be a nice jumping-off point- OW MY HEAD WHO TAUGHT THIS GUY ABSTRACTION?”

It’s a nice attempt, but it doesn’t go far enough, and in several places it confuses structure for function.

–GF

]]> By: Raph http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/02/26/john-kirks-design-patterns-of-successful-roleplaying-games/comment-page-1/#comment-3034 Raph Tue, 28 Feb 2006 03:34:39 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/02/26/john-kirks-design-patterns-of-successful-roleplaying-games/#comment-3034 I'm editing the above because I won't want automated spam slurpers finding it... I’m editing the above because I won’t want automated spam slurpers finding it…

]]> By: Frank http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/02/26/john-kirks-design-patterns-of-successful-roleplaying-games/comment-page-1/#comment-3032 Frank Tue, 28 Feb 2006 03:26:55 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/02/26/john-kirks-design-patterns-of-successful-roleplaying-games/#comment-3032 Dont mind Morgan he is a... well lets just say he is like that. Koster's email is rkoster at soe.sony.com. Dont mind Morgan he is a… well lets just say he is like that. Koster’s email is

rkoster
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]]> By: Morgan http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/02/26/john-kirks-design-patterns-of-successful-roleplaying-games/comment-page-1/#comment-3031 Morgan Tue, 28 Feb 2006 03:17:00 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/02/26/john-kirks-design-patterns-of-successful-roleplaying-games/#comment-3031 Yes! Raph <em>does</em> have an e-mail account at which he can be contacted. :) I have an e-mail account too... If he doesn't contact you, you might try searching the IGDA Member Directory. Of course, you may not have access to the Member Directory if you are, well, not a member... Yes! Raph does have an e-mail account at which he can be contacted. :) I have an e-mail account too… If he doesn’t contact you, you might try searching the IGDA Member Directory. Of course, you may not have access to the Member Directory if you are, well, not a member…

]]> By: Ridgway http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/02/26/john-kirks-design-patterns-of-successful-roleplaying-games/comment-page-1/#comment-3021 Ridgway Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:39:04 +0000 http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/02/26/john-kirks-design-patterns-of-successful-roleplaying-games/#comment-3021 Nice download. I paged through it a bit and now just need to find time to read it, heh. (btw does Raph have an email account he can be reached at? I searched the site a bit and could not find one. thanks ^_^) Nice download. I paged through it a bit and now just need to find time to read it, heh.

(btw does Raph have an email account he can be reached at? I searched the site a bit and could not find one. thanks ^_^)

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