A Bartle lead in the NYT?

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Nov 282005
 

Yep, check it out.

“So you have these four basic types that occupy the environment: the Achiever, the Explorer, the Socializer and the Killer.”

Nick Fortugno, the 30-year-old teacher, turned away from the whiteboard and faced the 14 undergraduate and master’s-level students in his Thursday seminar. “Killers act like predators, and like any ecosystem, if you increase the number of killers and facilitate them, you decrease the number of achievers and socializers.”

I’m sure that right about now, RIchard chimes in wondering why nobody uses his newer model, found in his book…

  11 Responses to “A Bartle lead in the NYT?”

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  2. It’s because they don’t know about the book, and even if they did they couldn’t buy a copy.
    http://www.youhaventlived.com/qblog/2005/QBlog261105A.html

  3. That’s too bad Richard’s book is out of print.

    I think people use the old system because describing 4 groups is easier than trying to describe 8 groups. Plus, the names really resonate. You know what an Explorer does in a game just by the name, but what about a Scientist?

    But, congrats for getting a mention in the NYT, Richard. 🙂

  4. Richard, do you have a clause in your contract regarding rights reversion if the book is out of print?

  5. Hey DD, long time no see! Your a hard man to get a hold of. It’s been awhile since we’ve wrote. I miss the good old days of UO when you were lead designer and I was the great GM, trying to get you to make changes. Give me a shout, I’d love to know what you been upto! 🙂

  6. I don’t have a clause in my contract regarding rights reversion.

    Richard

  7. No clauses about what happens if the book goes out of print? My contract specifies, for example, that if the book is out of print for six months (or some such period) that I can then “take it back” and do whatever I like with it — publish it elsewhere, give it away for free, and so on.

    You might want to contact your publisher and find out what the story is regarding this sort of thing. Did the copyright stay in your name or the publisher’s?

  8. I’ve contacted the publishers, although because New Riders is defunct now “contacting” them means sending an email to [email protected] . They haven’t got back to me yet…

    The contract says nothing about what happens if the book is out of print, except that the publisher can cease publication and destroy unsold copies of the book without liability. All copyright was transferred to the publisher.

    Richard

  9. Richard, the rules for publications should be the same in all EU nations. Ownership and copyright of the work return to the author if the publisher stop the distribution.

    You should have the legal rights (per default, not negotiable) to turn to another publisher or distribute the book yourself, as you see fit. The publisher gives up the priviliege of publishing your work when they no longer sell it (they do however have a short grace period).

    Im guessing Raph has this right as part of a contract as its likely to be different in the US.

    I happened to be a music publisher (and composer!) some years past and had to learn this stuff about the laws back then. The law is according to my book publisher brother-in-law working the same way for writing as for music.

  10. Sadly, the book was published by New Riders of Indianapolis. Although they’re a subsidiary of Pearson (a UK company), the contract was under the laws of the USA.

    Apparently, my query has been passed on to the editor-in-chief of Peachpit. No response from her yet, though.

    Richard

  11. It’s about time for a Designing Virtual Worlds II, isn’t it?

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